Interview · Jul 29, 2025 · 1 hr 3 min

Lance Healy, Scooter Sayers, Curtis Garrett

Let's Talk Logistics with Lance Healy, Scooter Sayers, Curtis Garrett

The NMFC got a major overhaul.

About this episode

2,000+ codes changed. FAKs might finally die.

Gabe sat down with some of the sharpest minds in LTL—Lance Healey, Curtis Garrett, and Scooter Sayers—to break down what this means for shippers, TMS platforms, and the future of freight.

FedEx made a bold move. Not every carrier is following.

This is where LTL’s headed.

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Interview · Jul 10, 2025 · 1 hr 3 min

Ben Jackson

Ben Jackson, built Bungii to deliver big and bulky freight—then COVID wiped out 95% of their revenue overnight. Instead of folding, they cut ad spend, rebuilt the model, and turned it into a B2B delivery machine with 15,000+ drivers and zero churn. This episode covers Final Mile execution, why agent networks are broken, and how to actually scale in this market. No fluff—just one of the best pivots in freight.

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Interview · Aug 14, 2025 · 56 min

Ben Tschirgi

Ben Tschirgi, spent a decade selling freight before launching Science of Sales to fix what most teams get wrong—cold outreach. Inside: hitting the inbox, writing messages that actually get replies, and out-selling bigger teams without the bloat. No fluff—just tactics that win.

Enough listening. Let's talk about your freight.

15 minutes with people who ship sofas, pergolas and squat racks for a living. Bring your worst lane — we'll bring ideas.

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